Did Cheryl change her last name to Bates?
I'm really going to miss Fred.
OMG it's Shannon Dougherty!
I'm not crying, you're crying.
I'm fine. Everything is fine.
I guess let's not forget Betty lost her dad too. Even though he was a serial killer, it was still her dad.
Really good episode.
Ooo hot brother. More of him please thanks.
Kerr Smith!
Oh yeah, I forgot Weatherby ran off with the cult.
Sam Witwer!
Where did that guy get a camera with film?
The game is on, Honey.
I hope Veronica isn't thinking of changing her name to Andrews. Too soon.
Moose!
Sign me up for that carwash.
Magic Mike night is a great idea.
Oh yay, a new rich asshole.
Why is the FBI letting Betty defuse a bomb? Law enforcement in this town is questionable at best.
A rocket? Who does Edgar think he is? Elon Musk? This is possibly the dumbest storyline I've ever seen.
Do you like scary movies?
I hope Charles isn't a bad guy. I think I love him.
Y'all would rather have a corpse in your house than a creepy doll? I get it.
Damn, Mr. Honey is savage.
Jughead is dead?! Gasp. Actually, I knew that was going to happen. I saw a preview or something a while back. I doubt he's actually dead though.
I love how excited Jughead is about these books.
Archie just desperately wants to be a hero, doesn't he?
Maybe I'm distracted by his hotness, but I really don't think Charles is a serial killer.
I've decided Jughead is my favorite character. Sorry, Kevin. You lost me last season.
Is Charles gay though? Has that been confirmed? Did I miss something?
Okay he said our bed and that he left Chic so maybe yes?
Yeah, I would definitely move out of that creepy ass house, Cheryl.
Why do they sometimes talk on payphones and landlines instead of their cell phones?
Why is Jughead the only student concerned that their teacher jumped out a window?
WTF Charles.
I can deal with a lot but not cannibalism.
Of course people in Riverdale still have VCRs.
Gina Torres!
I'm just going to keep announcing when actors I know show up.
Why is Archie suddenly the quarterback? Wasn't he a running back before?
It's a secret society, Betty.
Ugh, Brett sucks.
I have a feeling Jughead's story is going to drive the final wedge between him and Betty. Secrets, Yale, and now writing about her dad?
I really don't think you're supposed to use FBI resources to dig up dirt on your sister's nemeses.
What happened to Josie's mom?
Listen, Yale, you can't hold a father's crimes against his daughter. If that is in fact true, hot shady Charles.
Kevin... I'm not judging but I'm not sure this is a good idea.
The limit does not exist.
Why would you throw those answers away at the site of the quiz show? In the room you were using? That was an amateur mistake.
If word keeps spreading about the Maple Club, how long will it really take for Hiram to find out about it?
Rotted his guts? What a nice way to tell someone their friend died.
When Veronica first mentioned Katie Keene, I wondered if it was Lucy Hale. It is.
Hey good. Moose is okay!
So I guess Stonewall's zero tolerance policy doesn't extend to duals?
At school? I mean at least cover the window.
Betty obviously didn't do anything. But I'm guessing this is all some elaborate scheme Jughead came up with.
This coverup is not going well.
As if it hasn't already been obvious, Charles is not a good FBI agent. Now he's helping cover up a murder?
Okay, I do think it's possible to hypnotize people and give them trigger words but I also think that it takes time to "condition" someone. Wasn't Betty only hypnotized once?
I wonder if Betty is in on this plan? I'm starting to think so.
I just don't know if I think Hiram is really sick.
No one seems upset enough that Jughead is dead. I want more tears.
Did FP just say weak sauce?
The final problem, huh? Hmm...
I feel like this kiss was staged.
This is definitely a rouse.
I knew it, but also it wasn't really that convincing.
I feel like Archie and Betty are both lying about feelings.
Mmmhmm
Murder on the Orient Express, Stonewall addition
This show loves musicals doesn't it.
The musical episodes have the lowest ratings on IMDB, but I actually quite enjoy them.
I'm not going to lie, I love seeing everyone in drag.
This is it, isn't it?
Yep.
Maybe this is why people don't like this episode. I'll save my thoughts for later.
But is it really over? Are we gonna pretend it didn't happen, just like last time?
So did someone kill the real Mr. Honey?
I'm assuming this season ended early because of the pandemic?
Okay, well that was it. Season 4, that was presumably cut short. I'm guessing season 5, which I know has a time jump, will show the end of senior year and graduation that was probably originally the season 4 ender.
Overall I liked the season, especially the Stonewall/Jughead mystery bit. I never thought Jughead was dead (largely because I am fairly certain he is in season 5), but I still enjoyed it.
What I didn't like? I get that Archie is trying to help underprivileged kids, but his hero complex is killing me. I am also really tired of Veronica's ongoing war with her dad.
As for the Betty and Archie thing... So back in season 2, I liked the idea of Barchie. After their Christmas kiss, I really thought they would start dropping hints and building their romance. (Remember when Jughead narrated that Archie was seeing the girl next door as if for the first time?) But they didn't. They barely discussed it except to say it happened and season 3 passed without so much as a subtle hint. So I really thought season 4 would be the season. And it was...sort of.
Even though it seemed sudden, and kind of made them both cheaters, I don't hate it. I do love Jughead and don't want him to be sad, but I am also ready for new couples. I like when shows mix things up as far as ships go. So I'm curious if they will continue to pursue it in season 5. I don't want them to be cheaters (I'm having flashbacks of Xander and Willow in BTVS season 3), and I'm sure they probably won't be endgame, but I would like to see something new. Do I wish the buildup had been bigger? Yes. But am I mad about it? No.
Also, unless people just don't like the Barchie bits, why is this season's musical episode the lowest rated episode of the entire show? Like the other musicals, I liked it. And it was not the worst episode this season even.
So what's next? Prom, graduation, another serial killer? Will we get a resolution to the VHS mystery before the time jump? Is Charles really in love with Chic? I don't like that.
We will find out sometime maybe. As of now, all of season 5 is not on Netflix, Hulu, the CW app or anything but Amazon where I have to buy it. Time to play the waiting game.